[TheUbuCon] IRC Meeting Notes

[Kevin Wang]

installfest?  would putting in a squid cache help with updates?  I've
been running a local squid cache on my local machine with the hope
that I would be able to export it in the future.  never have had a
chance to try it.

it does require some tweaking of your config files to point at the
given squid proxy, and users will have to undo that change when they
leave.  Unless someone has a better idea.

   - Kevin

On 1/26/07, John Mark Walker <johnmark at johnmark.org> wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> Below are the meeting notes from our IRC chat. The things I need most
> at the moment are...
>
> 1. help with outreach to NY-area LUG's, particularly college and
> university LUG's
> 2. brainstorming session topics. I have some ideas here, but I'd like
> to hear from everyone else - what sessions do you want to see?
>
> Otherwise, enjoy the chat transcript ;)
>
>
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>
> (02:47:24 PM) The topic for #ubucon is: The UbuCon New York - February
> 16 - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TheUbucon RSVP at
> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TheUbuconRSVP
> (02:54:12 PM) GNu_Joe: humm up to 14 people, 386 seats open, so far
> it's going to be nice and cozy
> (02:54:25 PM) porkrind: ha...
> (02:54:49 PM) porkrind: if last time was an indicator, most of those
> won't fill up until the last week
> (02:55:10 PM) porkrind: GNu_Joe: how cold is it?
> (02:55:16 PM) GNu_Joe: I would have thought the NYCLug would fill that up
> (02:55:28 PM) porkrind: they will. some of them have confirmed to me
> but not filled it up
> (02:55:41 PM) porkrind: er... not RSVP'd on the list
> (02:55:56 PM) porkrind: I think we'll get somewhere around 100
> (02:56:00 PM) GNu_Joe: porkrind, let's see in Poughkeepsie it's now 13deg
> (02:56:06 PM) porkrind: oy
> (02:56:32 PM) porkrind: yeah, it's freezing here too... must be down to 50
> (02:56:35 PM) porkrind: heh
> (02:57:12 PM) porkrind: so how many of you guys are active in college
> or university LUG's?
> (02:58:17 PM) n8k99: I go to school at uni of phoenix no meat space interactions
> (02:58:20 PM) GNu_Joe: I'm representing mhvlug.org
> (02:58:35 PM) lh_ubuntuhat: porkrind: hey you
> (02:58:38 PM) porkrind: n8k99: ah... wow
> (02:58:44 PM) lh_ubuntuhat: yes, officially wearing ubuntu hat, not google hat
> (02:58:45 PM) lh_ubuntuhat: :)
> (02:58:47 PM) porkrind: lh_ubuntuhat: hey, wth are you??? ;)
> (02:58:49 PM) porkrind: haha
> (02:59:08 PM) porkrind: GNu_Joe: cool... how many from that LUG do you
> think can make it?
> (02:59:10 PM) lh_ubuntuhat: :)
> (02:59:10 PM) GNu_Joe: lh_ubuntuhat, where do you get a Ubuntu hat? ;-)
> (02:59:24 PM) ***lh_ubuntuhat checks the ubuntu store
> (02:59:29 PM) porkrind: from the ubuntu store in a mall near you... duh
> (02:59:35 PM) GNu_Joe: porkrind, at this point 3-4 but I expect about 7+
> (02:59:39 PM) porkrind: ok, cool
> (03:00:09 PM) porkrind: so as I mentioned before, if you know how to
> get ahold of college LUG's, I'd really like to do some outreach there
> this next week
> (03:00:10 PM) lh_ubuntuhat: porkrind: we can probably get some google
> folks to help with the installfest
> (03:00:28 PM) porkrind: lh_ubuntuhat: cool. yeah, I'd also like to
> figure out how many googlers will be there
> (03:00:28 PM) ***n8k99 ubunhats come preinstalled on system76heads
> (03:00:50 PM) lh_ubuntuhat: porkrind: i'll send out an invitation and
> ask folks to register
> (03:00:55 PM) porkrind: sweet. thanks
> (03:01:07 PM) porkrind: anybody have friends at NYU?
> (03:01:17 PM) GNu_Joe: porkrind, We have Marist, Vassar, and SUNY New
> Palz covered
> (03:01:18 PM) lh_ubuntuhat: GNu_Joe: they do indeed have hats at the
> ubuntu store!
> (03:01:30 PM) porkrind: GNu_Joe: awesome.
> (03:01:44 PM) Seven-iron: Will the Installfest be dedicated to Ubuntu?
> I have about 125 CDs from other distros I can bring and leave there
> (older versions).
> (03:01:59 PM) porkrind: Seven-iron: I think it makes sense to have as
> much there as possible
> (03:02:09 PM) porkrind: but I'm getting a stack from Canonical, so
> we're covered either way
> (03:02:47 PM) GNu_Joe: what version?
> (03:02:50 PM) porkrind: the last time I had an Ubucon, a lot of people
> had installed it and just wanted to troubleshoot
> (03:02:54 PM) porkrind: GNu_Joe: 6.10
> (03:03:11 PM) porkrind: so I figured it makes sense to have one room
> dedicated to troubleshooting and installation
> (03:03:22 PM) GNu_Joe: yup
> (03:03:27 PM) n8k99: I have a stack of 6.06
> (03:03:47 PM) porkrind: Looks like a few NYLUG'ers will help out with
> that - so if we have people from Google and other LUG's doing the
> installfest, I think we're covered there
> (03:03:58 PM) Seven-iron: Lesseeee ... I know I had Debian Sarge CDs
> and FC5 on CD also. I figure bringing DSL won't hurt either, but I
> think it's 2.4
> (03:04:07 PM) porkrind: ok
> (03:04:22 PM) GNu_Joe: So.... any cool talks lined up?
> (03:04:30 PM) porkrind: GNu_Joe: I'm glad you asked :)
> (03:04:36 PM) porkrind: I
> (03:04:38 PM) GNu_Joe: ;-)
> (03:04:56 PM) GNu_Joe: Is Mark going to show up?
> (03:05:07 PM) porkrind: I've been speaking with some guys at Eben
> Moglen's group at softwarefreedom.org, and I hope Eben can make it,
> but I don't know
> (03:05:25 PM) porkrind: GNu_Joe: I don't think Mark can make it. He 's
> supposedly skiing or something
> (03:05:49 PM) porkrind: GNu_Joe: but there will be a couple of
> Canonical people there, and I'll devote at least one session in the
> main auditorium to them
> (03:05:56 PM) GNu_Joe: how about Jono?
> (03:06:05 PM) porkrind: GNu_Joe: I'm talking to him on Monday. I hope so
> (03:06:23 PM) porkrind: according to his schedule, he's speaking
> somewhere else that day, so we'll see
> (03:07:20 PM) porkrind: so between opening and closing, a Canonical
> session, and a possible Eben Moglen session, there's not actually that
> much open in the main auditorium
> (03:07:34 PM) GNu_Joe: just tell him it's a heavy metal install
> fest... he'll make it
> (03:07:38 PM) porkrind: haha!
> (03:07:42 PM) porkrind: I'll do that
> (03:08:08 PM) porkrind: my main concern is making sure there's enough
> going on in the other 2 rings of the 3-ring circus
> (03:08:28 PM) porkrind: and by the way - this isn't a conference
> that's about the speakers, it's about the participants and attendees
> as much as anything
> (03:09:06 PM) GNu_Joe: ok, right that's why I'm here, what do you need?
> (03:09:06 PM) porkrind: so before I go any further... what is
> everyone's background here? developer? sysadmin? interested
> enthusiast?
> 03:09:29 PM) ***GNu_Joe all of the above
> (03:09:32 PM) porkrind: the last time, we had some interesting
> impromptu sessions from people that just happened to show up
> (03:09:46 PM) porkrind: and I dont' want a rigid schedule that
> prevents them from speaking
> (03:10:10 PM) Seven-iron: I'm an interested enthusiast!
> (03:10:15 PM) porkrind: so here's what we need - a couple of
> interactive sessions about developing on ubuntu
> (03:10:18 PM) porkrind: Seven-iron: hear hear!
> (03:10:29 PM) GNu_Joe: so.. like mostly BOF sessions?
> (03:10:34 PM) porkrind: a couple on just simple, end-user stuff
> "here's how I got my laptop working"
> (03:10:36 PM) n8k99: artist in school to become a developer
> (03:10:36 PM) porkrind: GNu_Joe: yes
> (03:10:44 PM) porkrind: n8k99: oh, you're gold
> (03:11:05 PM) porkrind: n8k99: do you have any tricks with linux
> graphics packages to show?
> (03:11:49 PM) Seven-iron: Sorry ... web client severely lags ... how
> do ppl envision the "here's how I got my laptop working" session?
> (03:11:51 PM) porkrind: the last ubucon had a wide array of people -
> from google developers to out-of-work people off thestreet who had
> just installed ubuntu on their old laptop
> (03:12:01 PM) n8k99: unfortunately - no and I will be out of town- I
> committed to attending a friends wedding
> (03:12:16 PM) porkrind: Seven-iron: I could see an interactive session
> with about 4 or 5 presenters each covering their different experiences
> (03:12:28 PM) porkrind: n8k99: bah... priorities ;)
> (03:12:50 PM) n8k99: porkrind yeah
> (03:12:58 PM) ***n8k99 doesn't want to grow up
> (03:13:03 PM) porkrind: haha
> (03:13:15 PM) GNu_Joe: session I would love to see "how to report a
> bug, and get it fixed by following through"
> (03:13:26 PM) porkrind: Seven-iron: so we'd call it something simple
> like "ubuntu on laptops" and make sure there are at least a couple of
> people there with something to show
> (03:13:30 PM) porkrind: GNu_Joe: yes
> (03:13:43 PM) lh_ubuntuhat: porkrind: will we make the channel log of
> this meeting available?
> (03:13:48 PM) porkrind: a couple of the best sessions last time were
> along the lines of "how to participate in Ubuntu"
> (03:13:54 PM) porkrind: lh_ubuntuhat: yup
> (03:15:00 PM) GNu_Joe: I hope this does not sound cheesy but Ubuntu
> installs cleanly leaving the person going what next?
> (03:15:12 PM) porkrind: GNu_Joe: yeah, that's it
> (03:15:24 PM) porkrind: at the last ubucon, we had 2 sessions on how
> to participate in ubuntu
> (03:15:37 PM) porkrind: one was a technical session all about
> launchpad and related tools
> (03:15:41 PM) Seven-iron: Can I presume Xubuntu will be just as
> welcome as Ubuntu? I'm trying to recall some of my installation
> misadventures with wacky mouse pointers and sudden shutdowns.
> (03:15:58 PM) porkrind: the other was more of a general, here are the
> various way to interact with Ubuntu communities
> (03:16:03 PM) porkrind: Seven-iron: certainly
> (03:16:07 PM) GNu_Joe: I like the idea of "video editing" or "sound
> editing" aka how to accomplish something cool
> (03:16:11 PM) porkrind: and kubuntu... and edubuntu
> (03:16:30 PM) porkrind: GNu_Joe: yes, absolutely. I want mostly end
> user-focused desktop stuff
> (03:16:41 PM) porkrind: GNu_Joe: with the right mix of sysadmin and dev stuff
> (03:17:08 PM) porkrind: but I'm actually not really concerned about
> getting speakers - it's mostly get the right people to show up, and
> out of that, you'll get a certain % of speakers
> (03:17:20 PM) porkrind: so here are the top priorities of what I need
> at the moment:
> (03:18:03 PM) porkrind: 1. outreach to LUG's - if you know of any
> LUG's that have not been covered - NYU, columbia, CUNY, etc. - I need
> to know about it so that they're on my radar. or just contact them
> directly
> (03:18:12 PM) Seven-iron: I'm just a big fan of xfce since the
> hardware in which I install's a bit older.
> (03:18:28 PM) porkrind: Seven-iron: that's a good point because there
> will be some people there with *ancient* hardware
> (03:18:42 PM) porkrind: so we shouldn't forget about xubuntu
> (03:18:58 PM) n8k99: maybe fluxbuntu either
> (03:18:59 PM) GNu_Joe: porkrind, do you have a flier?
> (03:19:04 PM) porkrind: and it goes without saying that if any of you
> want to say something, by all means, put your name down
> (03:19:14 PM) porkrind: GNu_Joe: no, but I need one... which was my next thing
> (03:19:28 PM) porkrind: GNu_Joe: I have the text, but I need someone
> with graphics-foo to put together a cool flyer
> (03:19:41 PM) n8k99: I can handle that porkrind
> (03:19:44 PM) porkrind: so if you can help, or if you know someone that can...
> (03:19:47 PM) porkrind: n8k99: sweetness
> (03:20:08 PM) ***n8k99 yells at the GIMP
> (03:20:10 PM) porkrind: lh_ubuntuhat: as for logistical stuff, will we
> need any volunteers for any of that day's functions?
> (03:20:12 PM) porkrind: n8k99: ha
> (03:20:45 PM) porkrind: and if someone can show me how you use
> cinepaint on Linux, you'll be golden
> (03:20:50 PM) porkrind: or blender for that matter
> (03:21:10 PM) n8k99: ooh now you're asking for alot
> (03:21:19 PM) n8k99: ;-)
> (03:21:52 PM) porkrind: haha
> (03:21:56 PM) porkrind: yeah... heh
> (03:21:58 PM) GNu_Joe: porkrind, we had a Merist prof. give a killer
> Blender demo, also I have the project Orange DVDs
> (03:22:07 PM) porkrind: oh, that would rock
> (03:22:17 PM) porkrind: can you ask him?
> (03:22:27 PM) GNu_Joe: porkrind, I'll try
> (03:22:36 PM) porkrind: ok... thanks
> (03:23:25 PM) porkrind: so... think about whom to invite... think
> about what you'd like to see re: sessions... and I'd like to have a
> good portion of the schedule filled out by next Friday
> (03:24:00 PM) porkrind: anyway... is this a good time for you guys, or
> would you like to tri a different date and time next week?
> (03:24:13 PM) porkrind: Seven-iron: everything ok? are you using some
> gee-whiz irc-web gateway?
> (03:25:38 PM) porkrind: oh... and does anyone have a blog that they
> want added to the ubucon blog?
> (03:25:42 PM) GNu_Joe: porkrind, I did that Ubuntu overview did you
> get a chance to look at the slides?
> (03:25:58 PM) porkrind: GNu_Joe: yes - I was actually going to ask you
> about that
> (03:26:09 PM) Seven-iron: fraid so .... I'm trying to keep up with
> this web client
> (03:26:12 PM) porkrind: GNu_Joe: I was going to steal a little of that
> for the opening session
> (03:26:14 PM) porkrind: Seven-iron: doh
> (03:26:28 PM) porkrind: either that, or I'll give a quick intro and
> then let you do the "intro to Ubuntu" bit
> (03:26:36 PM) porkrind: GNu_Joe:
> (03:26:52 PM) GNu_Joe: porkrind, by my guest, I stole the original layout ;-)
> (03:27:01 PM) porkrind: haha... well, in that case :@)
> (03:27:22 PM) GNu_Joe: porkrind, just let me know what you want to do
> (03:27:28 PM) porkrind: ok, cool
> (03:27:51 PM) porkrind: alrighty... so for now, there's not a whole
> lot else to discuss. I'd like to get together like this again next
> week. what time is best for everyone?
> (03:28:37 PM) GNu_Joe: porkrind, question is there any restrictions
> that we should know about? like no cameras?
> (03:28:47 PM) n8k99: porkrindcan you email me text for the flyer?
> (03:29:00 PM) porkrind: n8k99: yes, I will do that this weekend
> (03:29:04 PM) Seven-iron: this time seems to work well enought for me
> ... maybe I'll use a reeeeal client this time
> (03:29:13 PM) porkrind: GNu_Joe: good question - google is very
> reluctant to allow cameras
> (03:29:15 PM) n8k99: you have to work out photography issues with
> google's in house staff
> (03:29:27 PM) porkrind: with permission, you can take some shots. we
> ran into that last time
> (03:29:40 PM) porkrind: Seven-iron: heh... well, however you can participate
> (03:29:44 PM) n8k99: with advance notice they will video the talks for us
> (03:30:02 PM) porkrind: n8k99: yup. I'll Leslie very very nicely if
> she can help get that set up
> (03:30:04 PM) GNu_Joe: more content for google video I guess
> (03:30:07 PM) porkrind: heh
> (03:30:20 PM) porkrind: and now youtube... can't forget youtube ;)
> (03:30:21 PM) GNu_Joe: is there WiFi?
> (03:30:23 PM) Seven-iron: Will there be a camera phone check at
> Google's entrance, too?
> (03:30:41 PM) porkrind: Seven-iron: hmm... I had a camera phone and
> nobody checked... but then i didn't try to use it, either
> (03:30:49 PM) porkrind: GNu_Joe: there's always wifi
> (03:31:06 PM) porkrind: GNu_Joe: if it's like the mountain view
> office, there will be guest wifi - but I'll need to confirm that
> (03:32:59 PM) lh_ubuntuhat: porkrind: sorry, add moment
> (03:33:13 PM) porkrind: lh_ubuntuhat: no worries. I empathize
> (03:33:17 PM) lh_ubuntuhat: i think we'll be okay without logistics
> volunteers - I will be there, along with susan and my new assistant
> tiffany
> (03:33:20 PM) lh_ubuntuhat: so we're golden
> (03:33:25 PM) lh_ubuntuhat: :)
> (03:33:28 PM) porkrind: lh_ubuntuhat: you'll be there???
> (03:33:29 PM) lh_ubuntuhat: brb
> (03:33:32 PM) porkrind: dude... I didnt' know that
> (03:33:36 PM) lh_ubuntuhat: porkrind: oh yeah
> (03:33:37 PM) porkrind: awesome
> (03:33:38 PM) porkrind: haha
> (03:33:49 PM) lh_ubuntuhat: <--- professional geek herder
> (03:34:25 PM) lh_ubuntuhat: GNu_Joe: there should be guest wifi, but i
> will confirm
> (03:34:29 PM) lh_ubuntuhat: brb folks
> (03:36:21 PM) porkrind: alrighty... well unless there are any pressing
> questions, I'm going to drift in and out from here on
> (03:36:57 PM) porkrind: n8k99: I'll work on getting you some text tonight
> (03:37:24 PM) porkrind: oh one other thing... are any of you planning
> to man the ubuntu booth at linuxworld?
> (03:37:29 PM) n8k99: ok great - when do I need to have this finished
> (03:37:39 PM) porkrind: n8k99: whenver you can :)
> (03:37:46 PM) porkrind: n8k99: can you have it early next week?
> (03:37:56 PM) ***n8k99 wants a mm/dd not at $string
> (03:38:01 PM) porkrind: haha
> (03:38:17 PM) porkrind: 01/31 - is that cool?
> (03:38:23 PM) n8k99: perfect
> (03:38:31 PM) porkrind: n8k99: sweet. you r0x0r
> (03:38:49 PM) n8k99: we hope that is true, now don't we
> (03:39:01 PM) porkrind: right... I guess I'll have to see the flyer first ;)
> (03:39:08 PM) Seven-iron: since ppl will be bringing in ancient
> hardware, I'm presuming some of 'em may not even have bootable CD-ROM
> drives or even CD-ROMs period. Can we help these ppl get something
> installed?
> (03:39:31 PM) porkrind: Seven-iron: I don't think that will be too
> much of a concern, but it probably wouldn't hurt to be prepared
> (03:40:06 PM) lh_ubuntuhat: back
> (03:40:08 PM) porkrind: Seven-iron: but that brings up one issue -
> setting up an install server in case we need to do network installs
> after booting from a floppy or something
> (03:40:25 PM) porkrind: Seven-iron: I shall bring that up with lh_ubuntuhat
> (03:41:25 PM) Seven-iron: i have an oooooold panasonic toughbook
> (P233) which would qualify. I've seen something nifty ideas for
> installing without a CD-ROM drive.
> (03:41:53 PM) porkrind: Seven-iron: I had to do that with an old vaio
> - but that was with suse, and I did network installs
> (03:42:03 PM) porkrind: I assume you can do the same with
> debian/ubuntu, but I haven't tried
> (03:42:17 PM) Seven-iron: kewl!
> (03:42:17 PM) porkrind: lh_ubuntuhat: we were wondering about setting
> up an install server
> (03:42:38 PM) porkrind: in case we come across the odd laptop that
> can't boot from cdrom and has to boot from floppy or some such
> (03:43:10 PM) porkrind: just any old machine we can turn into a ubuntu
> repository
> (03:43:30 PM) Seven-iron: Yes, I've seen and done network installs
> with Debian. I'd love to see the same with (any flavor of) Ubuntu, but
> I can't seem to find such a resource.
> (03:44:13 PM) porkrind: Seven-iron: hmm... ok
> (03:44:18 PM) porkrind: then I need to dosome digging
> (03:45:00 PM) porkrind: perhaps I can turn my macbook (running
> ubuntu!) into an install server. that would be sweet
> (03:46:13 PM) GNu_Joe: I though the powerpc version was dropped?
> (03:46:34 PM) porkrind: GNu_Joe: I'm using the intel-based one
> (03:46:59 PM) Seven-iron: I'll go find a reeeeal IRC client in the
> meantime. I can't stand the lag. C ya next week.
> (03:47:05 PM) porkrind: ha... ok..
> (03:47:16 PM) porkrind: Seven-iron: c-ya next week - same bat time,
> same bat channel
>
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